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Post by Lady Winter Wolf on Apr 28, 2005 12:03:13 GMT -5
As the poll question asks, what religion, path, fate, whatever you wish to call it, do you believe in?
Personally, I have always been a Witch first and though I have been drawn to the Greek deities, it was the magickal side of Hellenism that I studied, not the historical. Being a Dark Pagan works hand in hand with my being a Nocturnal Witch, working with the energies of the darkness of the night.
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Post by GaratJax on Apr 28, 2005 15:38:05 GMT -5
I would call myself a christian, but ive got leanings towards buddhism and an interest in paganism.
I feel sometimes that the christian faith is somewhat unforgiving and feel that buddhism has a lot to offer and is something im now looking into.
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Post by MjolnirH on Apr 28, 2005 20:18:41 GMT -5
Asatru - is a reconstructed faith of the ancient vikings. but I take a more realistic approach to it. such as the gods themnselves are Icons of past Chieftans, leaders and women of note who's stories became things of myth and legend down through the centuries. but the core of what they believed and sttod for is my religion
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Post by Iorweth on Apr 29, 2005 3:00:17 GMT -5
Yeppers, me a Christian too but would have to be or I wouldnt be in my society. . . hush hush nudge wink But I am fascinated in the British religons of old: MANAWYDAN: - God of the Seas BELENUS - Sun God (1st May Beltaine) ARAWN - God of Death (pay heed here MH, you will like this one, you have to cross the Bridge of Swords then battle one of his Hell Hounds before being classed as a worthy soul!) And many more....
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Post by MjolnirH on Apr 30, 2005 1:30:18 GMT -5
actually I do believe that Arawn stems from Welsh myths although he is listed most places as celtic.
Lloyd Alexander used Arawn as the bad Guy in the five book series the chronicles of Prydain
The Book of Three.
New York: Holt, 1964. Taran is the assistant Pig-Keeper to Dallben, the most powerful enchanter in Prydain. He meets Lord Gwydion who is in search of Taran's pig HenWen who is a possesser of great knowledge.
The Black Cauldron
. New York: Holt, 1965. Taran the assistant Pig-Keeper embarks on an adventure with Prince Gwydion in an attempt to save the imaginary land of Prydain from the evil powers of Arwan, Lord of the Land of Death
The Castle of Lyr
Taran Wanderer
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The High King.
New York: Holt, 1968. Arwan the Death Lord has possession of a magical sword and hopes to make it serve his purpose of evil. Taran and Prince Gwydion raise an army against him in this last adventure of the Prydain Chronicles.
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Post by Iorweth on May 1, 2005 5:14:29 GMT -5
Well the Welsh/Irish and Picts were the remanents of the REAL Britons of Old, we English were just invaded too many times by first the Romans (may the Gods curse them) who killed all our English Druids in the Battle of Ynys Mon, then followed shortly by the Angles, who saw an unprotected England after the fall of Rome, then the Saxons thought, if the God cursed Angles are enjoying England we want a slice of the pie, then the dreaded vikings came to plunder our rich towns and fat lands and eventually the flea bitten french invaded steathly across the channel whilst we Anglo-Saxons saw the last of the Viking invaders in Northumberland. GOID DAMNED FRENCH
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Post by Stormm on May 9, 2005 23:47:59 GMT -5
...and who would have ever thought Saxon violence would pay so well in the media these days?
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Post by rincewind on Jun 27, 2005 15:39:05 GMT -5
I prefer to describe myself as "Vaguely Protestant," trying to find just the right branch. Er, or whatever you call all the splinters that used to be one big church before enough people realized they'd gone absolutely nuts. Anniehoo, the whole sort of "most people are worshipping the same God in different ways" sort of thing.
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Post by Dragonsrule on Jun 30, 2005 16:48:38 GMT -5
I consider myself a Christian, but do not attend church anymore. To me organized religion is just a bunch of Hypocrits getting together to worship GOD. If you took a poll and everyone answered Honestly, I believe you would find 75% or more do not practice what is preached to them. I believe that all people should be able to believe and worship who they want to worship with no pressure from family or friends who do not share those beliefs.
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Post by Lady Winter Wolf on Jun 30, 2005 23:50:23 GMT -5
I believe that all people should be able to believe and worship who they want to worship with no pressure from family or friends who do not share those beliefs. A most important point Dragonsrule. People are always crying about individual freedoms and rights, but when it comes to religion, there are too many folks preaching that we must all be the same....why?
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Post by Stormm on Jul 15, 2005 18:29:36 GMT -5
[quote author=ladywinterwolf board=religion thread=1114707793 post=1120193423 A most important point Dragonsrule. People are always crying about individual freedoms and rights, but when it comes to religion, there are too many folks preaching that we must all be the same....why? [/quote] It makes us all easier to label and understand (even if it's not true, and nothing is understood). If I like chocolate cookies, then EVERYBODY likes chocolate cookies and we can all get filthy stinkin' rich selling chocolate cookies because EVERYBODY will have to buy them. It serves my agenda as long as I dictate what the norm is.
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Post by Stormm on Jul 25, 2005 20:41:25 GMT -5
As the poll question asks, what religion, path, fate, whatever you wish to call it, do you believe in? I was born and raised in an Irish hereditary witch clannadh. A lot (but certainly not all) Wiccan practice and belief is very similar. I converted to Christianity in my early 20's, but I see things through very pagan eyes, which I suppose is how First Century Christians saw things too. So I don't really fit in well with 20th Century ethnic Christians, and I feel more comfortable in the presence of pagans and witches as they are easier for me to understand or relate to. It's strange, because as a youth, I was militantly anti-Christian and damned proud of it. I didn't get "churchy" I just got Christ and devoured a Bible. Incredible book when you get into it.
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Post by Dmitri on Jan 5, 2007 10:55:56 GMT -5
For what it's worth, there are many Christians who are not "hypocritical" or "intolerant". The stereotype is powerful, just like the stereotype of the human and animal sacrificing witch or warlock. Christianity is supposed to be about one question - Who is Jesus, and what will you personally do with the answer? That is between each individual and their Maker. If Jesus is a man, then you aren't a Christian. No big deal for me - I answer for what I do, not for what you do. I can believe that you are wrong without ostracizing you, and we can all agree to disagree.
The thing I find irritating is the idea of relativistic truth. It's an oxymoron by nature. Truth must be absolute, by definition, or it's not true. The task is to find what is true, and then hold onto it. People talk about having an open mind, yet why would anyone have an open mind when they have discovered truth? The only things left are lies. I believe it was C S Lewis who said that to keep an open mind after one has discovered the truth is like continuing to reprove that 2+2=4 endlessly. It makes no sense.
So, we all believe a little differently, and in the end, we are responsible for the judgments we make. Many of my friends are atheists, or pagans, or Buddhists. They know where I stand, and I know where they stand. Peace is possible, even when we discuss these matters. It simply requires logical discourse, and not taking disagreement as a personal attack.
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Post by Antioch on Jan 9, 2007 15:47:15 GMT -5
I was raised in the Lutheran Church my whole life. It is familiar to me and familiar tends to comfort.
I would say "other", though. I attend a Lutheran Church semi-regularly with my family. I believe in one God, who created all that is, with some revisions to these things over the years from evolution and extinction. Whether I call him/she/it God or Christ or Allah or the Goddess, makes no difference to me. I believe they are all styles of worshiping the same one God. Even though pagan religions are thought of as poly-theistic, I believe they all still have monotheistic themes in them. Zeus was king of the gods, all others played more minor roles, the Great Spirit for the Natives of this land was supreme above all other gods (small "g" on purpose).
I have trouble trusting a book completely, blindly, and faithfully which has been through so many revisions and translations over the years by so many with their own agendas. I truly fear those who do. It aggravates me that so many claim to preach the bible and have not read it in its entirety!! Most born agains have only read the new testament and have no clue what is in the old. And even then they select from it what best suits their views.
I have a large distrust of organized religion, most especially the Roman Catholic Church. I feel that they expect blind observance and don't really adequately respond to those who truly have questions about the bible. I don't like that there are so many historical facts that conflict with the tellings in the bible. I don't like that there were conventions that determined what books were let in and what books were left out of the bible...If they are all the word of God as claimed, (whether from prophet or messiah) why should they not all be in.
I make some Christians upset when I suggest that I believe Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship the same God. I've been told be even some in my own family that I am damned to Hell for not accepting Christ as Lord and damning all others. I always retort that I enjoy the Christian Love of damning everyone else who don't think as they do. It's really what Christ intended for everyone, right? Maybe you should spend a little less time reading and a lot more time understanding that bible you love so much.
My thoughts
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Post by rincewind on Jan 9, 2007 18:32:21 GMT -5
Here here, spoken like a true Protestant, hehe.
I think some other issues make the bible a very interesting work- such as all its different versions, and some books which were left out of or did not make it into the bible for various reasons when it was being complied. The "Gospel of Judas" is a great example here. That codex, apart from having the famous Judas account, has 3 or 4 other works on it which will probably never make it into the New Testament, despite being the same approximate age as the rest of the material currently there. There have been many conscious decisions in the past on what to and not to include in the official Bible or the apochrypha, and I doubt they've all been divinely inspired, considering how much some compilations differ from others.
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