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Oct 24, 2006 16:44:10 GMT -5
Post by grond on Oct 24, 2006 16:44:10 GMT -5
Well, what-ever the outcome, next year is W's last (unless he manages to pull off an FDR on us) so everyone better play close attention to who they do and don't vote for.
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Oct 24, 2006 17:02:05 GMT -5
Post by Dragonsrule on Oct 24, 2006 17:02:05 GMT -5
Sorry Grond, we have 2 more years of Bush ineptitude to go yet. Although if the Republicans lose both houses we have a chance of something being accomplished, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Oct 24, 2006 18:40:24 GMT -5
Post by grond on Oct 24, 2006 18:40:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess that was just wishful thinking on my part, oh well.
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Oct 30, 2006 12:59:52 GMT -5
Post by Dragonsrule on Oct 30, 2006 12:59:52 GMT -5
It's a sure sign he is worried. Todays paper has a article how Santorum is now saying that, the administration has a bad policy in place in Iraq. It seems that he was a giant supporter of the war, until he knows he is going to lose the election.
I read the article as he would also like to take out the Iran government also, by any means neccessary. Trying to set up a democracy there also. Which will again set up another Iraq, where you will have sectarian violence in the streets.
Please stop this guy from getting any more powerful in DC, by kicking him out of office on Nov 7th.
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Nov 7, 2006 22:18:20 GMT -5
Post by rincewind on Nov 7, 2006 22:18:20 GMT -5
Done!
Ding, dong, the witch is dead...
This is the happiest I've ever been after an election, regardless of how the rest of it turns out.
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Nov 7, 2006 23:26:10 GMT -5
Post by MjolnirH on Nov 7, 2006 23:26:10 GMT -5
<grumble, grumble> damned democrats
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Nov 8, 2006 18:29:55 GMT -5
Post by rincewind on Nov 8, 2006 18:29:55 GMT -5
Wow, guess the elections were more effective than I'd thought, turns out that Rummie's resigned, and the president's accepted it this time. I guess he does listen to focus groups, if said group is comprised of more than 50% of the voting electorate Well, MH, if it makes you feel better, one of the reasons they did so well in Pennsylvania was that they're moderates. I know people think moderation went extinct, but there's still some around, and maybe this'll encourage some moderate republicans to get out there and be someone worth voting for. The Republican party would be fine if it wasn't controlled by far-right wingers these days- at least there's a lot less of 'em in office now ;D
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Nov 8, 2006 21:22:22 GMT -5
Post by Dragonsrule on Nov 8, 2006 21:22:22 GMT -5
Now MH you are starting to sound like my brother. It is a shame that Pitts is still in office. How can a guy who has been in DC as long as he has have absolutely no clout in his party. He was ranked 227th in the party and 336th overall in the house. Last year alone he did not co-sponsor 1 single piece of legislation. Yet the good ole reliable Republicans in Lancaster county blindly vote him in. We need someone to go dig up some dirt on him to get him out. My brother would make a better congressman than him, and I don't agree with my brothers Ideas for the major parts of what he stands for. www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=516I consider myself a Moderate and left the Republican party a few years ago, because they started to become too far to the right. I for one would love to see more Moderates in Power. Now that we can start looking forward to the Presidential race in 2008, let me cast the first Vote. Barack Obama in '08
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Nov 8, 2006 22:27:11 GMT -5
Post by MjolnirH on Nov 8, 2006 22:27:11 GMT -5
ahh so there are others out there as intelligent as I am I am a republican (like you couldn't have guessed that) however I do not agree with all of the ultra-conservative issues. it seems as though, for the time being the elephants have to humor the jack-ass ;D as they have taken over....for now
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Nov 8, 2006 22:44:02 GMT -5
Post by rincewind on Nov 8, 2006 22:44:02 GMT -5
I am a republican (like you couldn't have guessed that) however I do not agree with all of the ultra-conservative issues. Well, then this may be the best thing which has ever happened for you, since the latest election has resulted in them rethinking some strategies and clearing out some of the unwanted trash from the party. Most of the ultra-conservaties have not made re-election (Santorum would be a fine example there), and moderates are likely to have much more influence in the party, particularly since the Republicans and Democrats need to work together on things, instead of just passing whatever the leadership of one party things would be good. I, for one, don't want to see ANY party controlling everything. If the republicans have it all, I'll be voting for the Dems, and vice-versa. The crazy crap they do when the other party can't stop them is quite predictable. You might say that nothing gets done then, but if you think about it, if we'd done nothing rather than invade Iraq, we might be better off, or at least be in a better position strategically to deal with something that's an ACTUAL threat to the USA and the world *coughIrancough*. Anyway, if the moderate republicans take control in the future, more power to 'em. But let's get these bat-poo insane guys the heck out.
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Nov 9, 2006 8:49:43 GMT -5
Post by MjolnirH on Nov 9, 2006 8:49:43 GMT -5
Good point
hafta disagree with ya on that one
Agreed
BWT I like the word bat-poo I used to say guano my self but I think I'll adopt yours ;D
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Nov 9, 2006 17:01:25 GMT -5
Post by rincewind on Nov 9, 2006 17:01:25 GMT -5
OK, I'd like to know how exactly we are better off for having invaded Iraq. Not that I didn't say they would be better off, I'm talking about us. Are we better off for having lost face with the world for invading a country using faulty information? Are we safer for having pulled thousands of troops from Afghanistan, who were looking for Bin Laden, for use in the war in Iraq? Are we somehow better off for the thousands of American dead or the billions of dollars spent? Are we safer for having created, as a national intelligence agency said, an increased terrorist threat as the result of the war in Iraq? ( select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40716F635550C778EDDA00894DE404482 ) These are all proven facts, so I'm wondering how we're better off. Thoughts?
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Nov 9, 2006 18:26:43 GMT -5
Post by grond on Nov 9, 2006 18:26:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to say Iraq didn't need to be invaded because I don't really know (I'm still going to think it). Even so, something had to have been very wrong with the strategic end of that deal. It seems like some just yelled "Let's invade us some middle eastern nation boys!" And then, when they had the mision accomplished banner, I think it was about a year ago (sentence fragment). The vast majority of the US casualties have happened since "mission accomplished". That says to me that something is wrong with this war, or at least the people running it.
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Nov 9, 2006 22:25:36 GMT -5
Post by Dragonsrule on Nov 9, 2006 22:25:36 GMT -5
The commercial that sent me through the roof, was one where the Republicans were saying that with Dems in control, they would pull our troops from Iraq, By doing this we would then have lost the war. Now correct me if I am wrong, but how can we lose a war that the President is on record as saying we have won and mission is accomplished. With us being still in Iraq, we are an Occupying foreign presence. Guess what, no matter how long we are in there, there will not be peace. What people don't get is that over there it is heavy on being a Theocracy, where the church controls what happens. The Sunni's will never be happy with the Shiite's in control. Any election over there will be dominated by the sect that has the most people, the Shiites, so Civil war will most likely happen no matter what. The Kurds again are the odd man out. By staying there, we are not helping the country one bit. Our country says it wants democracy everywhere but when something happens we don't like they have a fit. In Nicaragua our buddy Daniel Ortega,from the Contra's, got re-elected and the powers that be in DC are not happy about that. They have not even given the guy a chance, to prove he is a changed man. A free election, overseen by Jimmy Carter, nets a result our gov doesn't like and bamm, we have trouble. So doesn't that make us a bunch of Hypocrite's. I'll get off my soapbox now.
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Nov 23, 2006 10:21:40 GMT -5
Post by grond on Nov 23, 2006 10:21:40 GMT -5
Now, does our government currently qualify as being a chicken-hawk? Or are we still a war-hawk? Not that either one is any good, I mean sometimes the best defense is a good defense, not spreading the armed forces halfway across the globe. But what do I know?
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