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Post by pigdish on Dec 19, 2007 16:48:59 GMT -5
I wanted to add that I worked for JCPenney's and Macy's for several years and during the Christmas season people used to become so nasty it was unbelievable. They would try and rip off the store and overall most people were just rude. You really see the worst in people when you work in retail.
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Post by Rincewind on Dec 19, 2007 16:57:41 GMT -5
You really see the worst in people when you work in retail. Yup, I'll agree with you wholeheartedly there. 2nd most worst behaved people: Patrons at Dorney Park, at least in my work experience. It was a very good job to have as a teen, because now I can look at all jobs and say "Well, at least I'm not working at Dorney Park." Groups of teen males who distract the operators so they can steal stuff were probably the worst. Well, apart from the armed thieves, anyway. The guys who want to throw softballs regardless of whether or not a worker is in their way aren't too great to deal with either.
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Post by agamoto on Dec 19, 2007 22:27:18 GMT -5
On a some what tangent idea, does any one know the time line of santa? I know he is also St. nicholas and Father Christmas, but what was his origen and evolution?
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Post by Dmitri on Dec 19, 2007 23:27:29 GMT -5
From memory, here goes...
Saint Nicholas of Myra was alive circa 350 AD, and a bishop who gave generously to the poor, especially dowries to poor Christian girls, so they could get married more easily.
Many people draw connections between Odin and Santa, though I don't remember all of the specifics here. Thus it is seen as either a Christianization of a pagan holiday/character, or a revisionist attempt to discredit a Christian saint. As I recall there isn't a lot of history to really prove either side of the argument - just a person's own belief as a starting point, followed by connect-the-dots.
I think the origin of the name is Sinterklauss or something - it's Dutch or something.
On firmer ground for me, the first "dude in a red suit" Santa was a Thomas Nast cartoon character. Nast was a primarily political cartoonist in the late 19th century in the US. Prior to that I think he typically dressed in a green, fur lined robe, a la Father Christmas from Britian.
There ya go - my brain is tapped out.
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Post by agamoto on Dec 21, 2007 9:41:51 GMT -5
Well at least you got a brain. I'm like the scarecrow, tinman, and lion all rolled into one. ;D
Thankyou for the info.
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Post by MjolnirH on Dec 21, 2007 11:21:20 GMT -5
your a mindless, heartless, coward?
I think not
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Post by Lady Winter Wolf on Dec 22, 2007 15:33:03 GMT -5
On a some what tangent idea, does any one know the time line of santa? I know he is also St. nicholas and Father Christmas, but what was his origen and evolution? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus
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Post by agamoto on Dec 22, 2007 21:51:48 GMT -5
Thanks a bunch LWW, the info was very informative.
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